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The Underdark
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Posted - 2011.11.15 14:41:00 -
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soo we have 2 ships with hybrid bonus's? in other-words missile users get nothing this expansion, way to leave people out.
Caldari specialize in missiles, it's only proper that missiles should be on it |
The Underdark
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Posted - 2011.11.15 15:28:00 -
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I'm fighting this change for the Missile users, If this goes through they get nothing this winter.
Caldari is a missile race, at least give them hardpoints back, if not any bonus's. |
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Posted - 2011.11.15 15:49:00 -
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Shadowsword wrote:The Underdark wrote:I'm fighting this change for the Missile users, If this goes through they get nothing this winter.
Caldari is a missile race, at least give them hardpoints back, if not any bonus's. Hardpoints without bonuses would be behond pointless. And who said a race was specialized in only one weapon type? By your logic, since gallentes are the drones specialists, then hybrids wouldn't belong to anyone.
Howdy, I corrected myself in the proper Feedback forums, Please see https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=364253#post364253 Balancing feedback topic |
The Underdark
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Posted - 2011.11.15 20:09:00 -
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Daergaar wrote:The Underdark wrote:I'm fighting this change for the Missile users, If this goes through they get nothing this winter.
Caldari is a missile race, at least give them hardpoints back, if not any bonus's. We actually have enough missle boats, thank you. We don't need another, especially one with a split weapons system with no bonus to missiles. That's what the Rokh is for (and yes I'm aware it's a battleship). We don't actually have any good hybrid turret battlecruisers yet (the Ferox is not a ship).
If you want a good Hybrid ship and you already have the skills for the turrets, just train the measly skills needed to fly a gal BC..
changing a ship type is far FAR less taxing than training a whole new weapon type and all it's specializations |
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:20:00 -
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Arthur Frayn wrote:The Underdark wrote:If you want a good Hybrid ship and you already have the skills for the turrets, just train the measly skills needed to fly a gal BC.. Wrong. Gallente are drone race. Hybrids are their secondary weapon system. You're very glad I caught that one before you looked stupid.
are you joking? drones are a variety, utility item. a FEW ships specialize in them, far more Gal ships are suited for Hybrids |
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:57:00 -
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Arthur Frayn wrote:The Underdark wrote:are you joking? drones are a variety, utility item. a FEW ships specialize in them, far more Gal ships are suited for Hybrids All Gallente battleships have huge dronebays and bandwidth. Gallente cruisers and battlecruisers are the same. Gallente are only race with frigates that have big drone bays and drone damage bonuses. Even the hybrid Caldari/Gallente ships have their primary Gallente bonus being drone damage and huge drone bays. Gallente carriers are all damage bonus with fighters (just bigger drones). Drones are a primary weapon system. Hybrids are secondary. Same with Caldari. Missiles are primary, hybrids secondary. Doesn't matter that both races have one or two ships built around their secondary weapon systems. So to say Caldari Naga should have missiles is silly. Gallente Talos should be drone boat, by that logic. Hence, Naga is fine as is. You are stupid for not seeing this. If you want a cheap torp boat, fly a Raven which is awesome for that role. Torps have flight time which means you want a ship that can survive being shot at while the big slow lumbering torps stroll over to the target and BOOM. Torp Naga vs every other tier 3 BC = dead Naga due to other BC being low sig and faster and insta-hit with their guns while torp Naga cries itself to sleep. Torp naga also useless against bigger ships that can insta-hit with guns and smaller ships that torps can't hurt. Naga cries itself to sleep again if CCP listens to your dumb opinion. You are not smart.
Simply because Gal ships can carry drones more often and larger ones does not mean they are primarily drone based. Unless given a specific bonus drones are a small part of the damage for hybrid ships even with heavies compared to Hybrid's output and otherwise they are used as a utility device, ecm, web, anti-frig with damage type variety.. and if you're really going to argue that the main point of Gal carriers is the fighter damage, that's simply rediculous.
This is getting derailed though, this is not a what do Gal use as a primary weapon, It's that every weapon type now has a Over-sized weapon platform except the Missiles. fly a torp raven? yeah sure, except the whole point of these things is to be fast, small and fragile with a TON of damage, neither do they have a single 8x launcher ship.. or hell even launcher models on their ships. Missiles are harder to use in a lot of situations, and considering how fragile these ships are they will be significantly more effective in a fleet with web's, scrams, painters, plenty of utility mod's to enable the torp's / cruise / whatever missile to hit. |
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:08:00 -
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Nimrod Nemesis wrote:The Underdark wrote: It's that every weapon type now has a Over-sized weapon platform except the Missiles. Two words: Stealth Bombers.
You would deny them an updated more versatile new model simply because of a highly specialized ship? |
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